How could you not like that episode?!? It was brilliant for 5 reasons:
1) Nathan’s death… Very very q
1) Has completely changed the dynamics of the Petrelli family…
2) Tracy has a new mastery of her powers!
3) Hiro is being given some SERIOUS issues to deal with which is just what he needs to stop becoming samey and whine and generally annoying
4) Noah is running a new Company! How awesome would it be if him and Claire teamed up?!
5) Peter is super-powered again and with a good set of morals! Ultimate classicness awaits…
Fair enough we didn’t see the fight, but we got to see some EPIC scenes.
I mean Tracy forming out of water, the effect for that was amazing! I guess they chose to do the tracy out of water rather than doing the fight. I think the fight might have given to much away. So it was nice, plus it was “Five Years Gone” when the fight happened behind closed doors.
And I agree, Finale was way better than Dual.
Wonder what’s going to happen with the whole “Sythan” thing. And I guess Tracy is the new female baddie?
did i hear correctly – is the podcast going to be released in a few weeks? or did they mean a few days?
i was also one of the ones who was upset with the “predictions” from the last podcast which turned out to be pretty much exactly what happened. i was going to write an email and ask them how they choose which reader feedback to feature in the podcasts. i thought maybe someone had slipped them a major spoiler in the form of a “theory”. but i guess this was just one of those random, crazy theories that happened to be true.
i wasn’t completely spoiled but it took away from the HOLY WTF aspect of what happened. i already had established in my mind that i wouldn’t like that outcome, so for it to happen left a bad taste in my mouth.
in the future, i do really enjoy the theories on the podcast but at the discretion of the audience, i hope they consider how far to take speculations and also, which speculations to feature and where throughout the podcast to maintain the integrity.
i did not like the episode at all…
they totally ruined heroes for me…
last night i actually promised myself i’d never see it ever again, of course that’s not happening but that’s how horrible it was in my opinion… grrr.
What’s wrong with Claire’s blood? Her blood brought Noah back. Why can’t they try that on Nathan? So she can save her adopted father but not her biological father. Bummer!
Matt was doing the Haitian’s job. Matt’s ability shouldn’t have a long term effect.
Peter seems to only get one ability from Sylar since he was still bleeding. Not cool.
Nathan was supposedly killed in every season finale in the last 3 seasons. Wonder where the real Nathan’s body is.
Oh my lanta! (sorry – wrong podcast) I hated the finale, and I feel like I’m almost done with the show. I didn’t care in the least about the lack of a fight scene, but I do care that once again we get an absolutely uninteresting resolution to a potentially interesting plot. Then, we compound it with the dumbest twist ever – Nathlar. Yikes!
I really feel like the writers just make the story up as they go and have no idea where they are going with the story or the characters. I’m not asking for a five year plan, but can’t they show at least a little vision for where things are going? This season ending has to be the worst yet, and although I’m sure I’ll still watch the next season, I’m really not expecting much.
Alright, Claire’s blood would have healed Nathan just fine. That’s been said.
However, what gets me is their reasoning for turning Sylar into Nathan. They said it was because if Nathan was gone, there would be nobody to convince the president that all was well with the world…..uhmmm…..Why couldn’t Parkman convince the president that all was well with the world. Rather than brainwashing the super-villain, just do the Parkman-mind-trick on the president and then kill Sylar.
Noah knew about Claire’s blood having the ability to heal others and Angela knew that Sylar’s healing would restore his memory eventually. Dumb writing.
i didn’t like it all… for all the reasons everybody already said. I thought it was weak… and to me it looked more like a final Heroes episode than a season finale.
Your podcasts are consistently superior to the actual episodes of this series.
Since Season 1, this series has never been able to capture the magic on all fronts: character development and storylines. Beeman is a wise man – jump, baby, jump. Verheiden (of precious BSG fame) should also run!
I’m over Heroes: This was a poor episode, whether viewing as a single watch or as a volume/season *finale*.
This show is full of plot-holes (NOW Hiro has a time travel/freezing health problem? Noah should have known that Claire’s blood could heal, oh, I don’t know NATHAN) as mentioned by a few above.
There is no good overall storyline editing/consistency and it takes a toll to a viewer over time. A great premise/opening has really spiraled into drivel.
This is in no way shape or form related to the quality of your podcast. I hope you keep this ‘cast trucking as long as your hearts are into it. I may tune in to see what’s going on with the peeps with out having to hurt my eyes and brain.
I don’t know, I really wasn’t looking for the fight. It was more the fact that all I really wanted didn’t even make it itothe show, (Micca and Sylar, Matt and Baby, Hiro in the hopital AND WITH A SWORD, Ando doing anything cool at all, the brothers flying together to do something epic besides flying into a room).
That being said, the glory of Digital Tv meant that the storm outside really cut out the last portion. I couldn’t tell if it was the Sylar “body on Ice” or Nathan’s that was burned at the end. I want to say Sylar. Is that correct? Regardless, in a weak hope that either the writers being that forgetful or thinking we are that dumb, I want to say that maybe Angela also had Matt brainwash everyone into thinking the body was Sylar and they secretly have Nathan getting resed for next season (if that even happens, I’m not sure I wat it to). I fail to see the point in this, only the heroes saw it, so it’s not to let the world know Sylar is dead, and why make that many enemies by taking away a Brother/Father/Friend.
i second that-but lets erase the writers mind cuz I dont want to be suckered into watching this catpoop!
for those who think this season and epsiode was good or great, jeez, get a date and have some fun in the sun!
peace out!
how is Hiro – time freezing/health problems a plot hole ? :s
Correct me if I am wrong, he is the only one to have Baby Matt’s “Touch and Go” switch his power on/charge them. So for all we know it could be side effects from that.
What’s with everyone’s fascination with claires blood? :s
Angela practically identified the motivation for what happened. She said, I have dreams which can be interpreted however you want. She can’t change the outcome of her dream because then anything will happen. You know “butterfly” effect. See Volume 3 for what would happen if you mess with things . She carried on saying that all she can do is make sure her dream comes true. So, Nathan dead, Sylar captured…. Matt standing the room. Angela interprets her dream by suggesting Matt turn Sylar into Nathan. Sythan is born.
If they had healed Nathan god knows what would have happened in the future. You don’t go against the dream because you will create something new. Why do you think Angela was all up for blowing up New York in Season 1. She had seen the future and knew what was going to happen so she could control it. Stopping it just lead to somethin out of her control
From a writers point of view. Using Claires blood to heal Nathan would kinda be like deja vu. Season 2. Adam’s blood heals Nathan. So… been there done that. Furthermore Volume 3, Nathan just healing like that after Future Peter shot him. Also, Heroes needed a death and it got a death. This death sticks, its only a matter of time before Sylar emerges from this Sythan scenario.
Furthermore, what to do with Sylar. Lets say Nathan is healed with Claire’s blood. What of sylar ? Cut him up burn him? How anti-climatic would that have been. Plus, do we all really want to see Sylar gone gone? The great villains always manage to come back. In this situation that we have – Sythan, there is the possibility that Sylar can come back, but also Nathan could live on.
I hope fans of the show can just give this Sythan plot a go. It is going to be really good, i mean the internal conflict. So much potential.
Oh the finale was good, how many twist and turns was there. It wasn’t slow dire like the Vol. 3 1. There was an end aim in this one. Don’t get me wrong it wasn’t perfect, but for a season finale it was good. We got closure to this arc. Heroes has never done epic finales, they have been good, closing episodes. They dont end on cliffhangers apart from Season 2. So I wasn’t expecting that. If anything the prelude to next volume normally act s cliffhangers.
I like heroes, i really do.
The show really succed in letting the viewer get a sense of what it would be like to have a power and the joy and terror this would bring into a persons life.
The problem with shows like heroes is that you have to move on from this starting point and writing a show where you have special abilites, it is very hard to stop the abilites from taking over and restricting the story.
You eventually end up with a very limited story and that can only appeal to a ever more divided and shrinking number of fans.
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How could you not like that episode?!? It was brilliant for 5 reasons:
1) Nathan’s death… Very very q
1) Has completely changed the dynamics of the Petrelli family…
2) Tracy has a new mastery of her powers!
3) Hiro is being given some SERIOUS issues to deal with which is just what he needs to stop becoming samey and whine and generally annoying
4) Noah is running a new Company! How awesome would it be if him and Claire teamed up?!
5) Peter is super-powered again and with a good set of morals! Ultimate classicness awaits…
OH MY DAYS! So loved this finale.
Fair enough we didn’t see the fight, but we got to see some EPIC scenes.
I mean Tracy forming out of water, the effect for that was amazing! I guess they chose to do the tracy out of water rather than doing the fight. I think the fight might have given to much away. So it was nice, plus it was “Five Years Gone” when the fight happened behind closed doors.
And I agree, Finale was way better than Dual.
Wonder what’s going to happen with the whole “Sythan” thing. And I guess Tracy is the new female baddie?
is there going to be an audio replay
did i hear correctly – is the podcast going to be released in a few weeks? or did they mean a few days?
i was also one of the ones who was upset with the “predictions” from the last podcast which turned out to be pretty much exactly what happened. i was going to write an email and ask them how they choose which reader feedback to feature in the podcasts. i thought maybe someone had slipped them a major spoiler in the form of a “theory”. but i guess this was just one of those random, crazy theories that happened to be true.
i wasn’t completely spoiled but it took away from the HOLY WTF aspect of what happened. i already had established in my mind that i wouldn’t like that outcome, so for it to happen left a bad taste in my mouth.
in the future, i do really enjoy the theories on the podcast but at the discretion of the audience, i hope they consider how far to take speculations and also, which speculations to feature and where throughout the podcast to maintain the integrity.
sorry for the essay, btw lol hope it helps.
see you next season!
i did not like the episode at all…
they totally ruined heroes for me…
last night i actually promised myself i’d never see it ever again, of course that’s not happening but that’s how horrible it was in my opinion… grrr.
My last episode of Heroes, this show needs to be cancelled…..sorry
What’s wrong with Claire’s blood? Her blood brought Noah back. Why can’t they try that on Nathan? So she can save her adopted father but not her biological father. Bummer!
Matt was doing the Haitian’s job. Matt’s ability shouldn’t have a long term effect.
Peter seems to only get one ability from Sylar since he was still bleeding. Not cool.
Nathan was supposedly killed in every season finale in the last 3 seasons. Wonder where the real Nathan’s body is.
Is there anywhere we can see the East Coast live show?
Great finale. Loved it. Exciting. Fun (Larry. lol). Heartbreaking (Nathan’s death). Unpredictable (Sylar-Nathan switch). Creepy (Sylar-Nathan switch).
Heroes is great no matter what ppl say.
Oh my lanta! (sorry – wrong podcast) I hated the finale, and I feel like I’m almost done with the show. I didn’t care in the least about the lack of a fight scene, but I do care that once again we get an absolutely uninteresting resolution to a potentially interesting plot. Then, we compound it with the dumbest twist ever – Nathlar. Yikes!
I really feel like the writers just make the story up as they go and have no idea where they are going with the story or the characters. I’m not asking for a five year plan, but can’t they show at least a little vision for where things are going? This season ending has to be the worst yet, and although I’m sure I’ll still watch the next season, I’m really not expecting much.
Where’s the audio download? I don’t want to sit here and watch at the computer.
Norman really sums up all my feelings…
Alright, Claire’s blood would have healed Nathan just fine. That’s been said.
However, what gets me is their reasoning for turning Sylar into Nathan. They said it was because if Nathan was gone, there would be nobody to convince the president that all was well with the world…..uhmmm…..Why couldn’t Parkman convince the president that all was well with the world. Rather than brainwashing the super-villain, just do the Parkman-mind-trick on the president and then kill Sylar.
Noah knew about Claire’s blood having the ability to heal others and Angela knew that Sylar’s healing would restore his memory eventually. Dumb writing.
i didn’t like it all… for all the reasons everybody already said. I thought it was weak… and to me it looked more like a final Heroes episode than a season finale.
audio file?
Your podcasts are consistently superior to the actual episodes of this series.
Since Season 1, this series has never been able to capture the magic on all fronts: character development and storylines. Beeman is a wise man – jump, baby, jump. Verheiden (of precious BSG fame) should also run!
I’m over Heroes: This was a poor episode, whether viewing as a single watch or as a volume/season *finale*.
This show is full of plot-holes (NOW Hiro has a time travel/freezing health problem? Noah should have known that Claire’s blood could heal, oh, I don’t know NATHAN) as mentioned by a few above.
There is no good overall storyline editing/consistency and it takes a toll to a viewer over time. A great premise/opening has really spiraled into drivel.
This is in no way shape or form related to the quality of your podcast. I hope you keep this ‘cast trucking as long as your hearts are into it. I may tune in to see what’s going on with the peeps with out having to hurt my eyes and brain.
I don’t know, I really wasn’t looking for the fight. It was more the fact that all I really wanted didn’t even make it itothe show, (Micca and Sylar, Matt and Baby, Hiro in the hopital AND WITH A SWORD, Ando doing anything cool at all, the brothers flying together to do something epic besides flying into a room).
That being said, the glory of Digital Tv meant that the storm outside really cut out the last portion. I couldn’t tell if it was the Sylar “body on Ice” or Nathan’s that was burned at the end. I want to say Sylar. Is that correct? Regardless, in a weak hope that either the writers being that forgetful or thinking we are that dumb, I want to say that maybe Angela also had Matt brainwash everyone into thinking the body was Sylar and they secretly have Nathan getting resed for next season (if that even happens, I’m not sure I wat it to). I fail to see the point in this, only the heroes saw it, so it’s not to let the world know Sylar is dead, and why make that many enemies by taking away a Brother/Father/Friend.
Will someone call the Haitian for me? I need him to erase that final episode out of my memory.
Haha Payaso. He’s got to erase all of our minds so the Heroes “writers” can have a second chance.
i second that-but lets erase the writers mind cuz I dont want to be suckered into watching this catpoop!
for those who think this season and epsiode was good or great, jeez, get a date and have some fun in the sun!
peace out!
Says the person who obviously has nothing better to do but come on here and insult everyone else…
how is Hiro – time freezing/health problems a plot hole ? :s
Correct me if I am wrong, he is the only one to have Baby Matt’s “Touch and Go” switch his power on/charge them. So for all we know it could be side effects from that.
What’s with everyone’s fascination with claires blood? :s
Angela practically identified the motivation for what happened. She said, I have dreams which can be interpreted however you want. She can’t change the outcome of her dream because then anything will happen. You know “butterfly” effect. See Volume 3 for what would happen if you mess with things
. She carried on saying that all she can do is make sure her dream comes true. So, Nathan dead, Sylar captured…. Matt standing the room. Angela interprets her dream by suggesting Matt turn Sylar into Nathan. Sythan is born.
If they had healed Nathan god knows what would have happened in the future. You don’t go against the dream because you will create something new. Why do you think Angela was all up for blowing up New York in Season 1. She had seen the future and knew what was going to happen so she could control it. Stopping it just lead to somethin out of her control
From a writers point of view. Using Claires blood to heal Nathan would kinda be like deja vu. Season 2. Adam’s blood heals Nathan. So… been there done that. Furthermore Volume 3, Nathan just healing like that after Future Peter shot him. Also, Heroes needed a death and it got a death. This death sticks, its only a matter of time before Sylar emerges from this Sythan scenario.
Furthermore, what to do with Sylar. Lets say Nathan is healed with Claire’s blood. What of sylar ? Cut him up burn him? How anti-climatic would that have been. Plus, do we all really want to see Sylar gone gone? The great villains always manage to come back. In this situation that we have – Sythan, there is the possibility that Sylar can come back, but also Nathan could live on.
I hope fans of the show can just give this Sythan plot a go. It is going to be really good, i mean the internal conflict. So much potential.
Oh the finale was good, how many twist and turns was there. It wasn’t slow dire like the Vol. 3 1. There was an end aim in this one. Don’t get me wrong it wasn’t perfect, but for a season finale it was good. We got closure to this arc. Heroes has never done epic finales, they have been good, closing episodes. They dont end on cliffhangers apart from Season 2. So I wasn’t expecting that. If anything the prelude to next volume normally act s cliffhangers.
When will the audio from the podcast be put on iTunes?
What Shean said! Episode was Epic, I truly enjoyed it. Trust Tim Kring…
I like heroes, i really do.
The show really succed in letting the viewer get a sense of what it would be like to have a power and the joy and terror this would bring into a persons life.
The problem with shows like heroes is that you have to move on from this starting point and writing a show where you have special abilites, it is very hard to stop the abilites from taking over and restricting the story.
You eventually end up with a very limited story and that can only appeal to a ever more divided and shrinking number of fans.
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My operation system is Win Vista.
Thanks,
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